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Five surprising jobs that pay six-figure salaries

Nicole Wray|

Ontario recently released its annual “Sunshine List” a public record that lists the names of public sector employees making more than $100,000 annually (more than double Canada’s national average salary of $47,200). Growing in size by more than 11% from last year’s $100,000 club, the list include some surprising members including parking attendants and teachers who make more than the average lawyer. Here are five surprising careers with above-average earning potential that don’t involve days spent sitting behind a desk.

Teachers

Though not all hit the $100,000 mark, teachers in Ontario have an average salary of $83,500, which puts them on par with the average lawyer in Ontario, according to Macleans Magazine who counted 88 teachers in Hamilton alone who make more than $100,000. Though good earning potential and work-life balance make teaching a good career option, an abundance of teachers make this a career choice with low employment prospects.

Police officers

Over 3,000 Toronto Police officers earn more than $100,000 a year according to the Sunshine List1. Members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police2 can also earn up to $80,000 after just three years of service, with the opportunity to jump above the $100,000 mark with ranks such as Staff Sergeant and Inspector. If you want to work in a mobile office, this is a career choice with great benefits and above-average earning potential.

1. As reported in The Globe & the Toronto Sun

2. Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Firefighters

Though the base salary for a firefighter in Canada isn’t likely to reach $100,000 (according to Service Canada the average income of a firefighter in Canada is $65,000), unusual working hours contribute to overtime earnings that can bump firefighters into the $100,000 club. For example, 54 firefighters in the city of Kitchener, Ontario, make more than $100,000.1 Service Canada says that job prospects are good for this career that offers excellent benefits, varied work hours and good salary potential for people wanting to work in a physically demanding career.

1. Kitchener PostFirefighters make up half of city’s Sunshine List

Nurses

Followed by professors, the most common job on the Sunshine List are nurses, with nearly 2,000 making more than $100,000 per year in Ontario. According to the Canadian Nurses Association the salary of RNs range from $40,000 to $80,000 (with room for overtime), making this a well-paying career option for people who like to think on their feet.

Paramedic

If you thrive in a stressful and fast-paced working environment, becoming a paramedic is a well-paying career option that keeps you on your toes. Alberta Health Services says paramedics earn $32.59 to $42.90 per hour (about $65,000 to $85,000 per year). Paramedics are also one of the three essential services (along with firefighters and police officers) that made it onto Ontario’s Sunshine List with the highest wage earners bringing in over $100,000 including overtime pay.

Though high-paying careers are often tied to corporate cubicles and a nine-to-five schedule, Ontario’s Sunshine List proves that Canadians wanting to work on their feet can find jobs with above-average earning potential.


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  • Olga

    And why again they are SURPRISING in any way?

    • Filmie

      Its not. It is surprising that more are not earning this salary and are thus underpaid. I thought your average lawyer was well into the six figures. I was shocked that they are only in the 80K range! For school teachers, $83.5K a year for 10 months of work is fair as they get extra 2 months off.

  • Mike Kiely

    so much for fairness over entitlement but no tax funded employees give a darn about our expense since it isn’t real money.

  • Potter

    I think it is absolutely Hilarious that out of all those people Teachers make the most. What risk do they take daily? I believe Firefighters deserve the most out of Emergency services. They do police work, search and rescue, fire, medical, usually first one scene, etc… So why are they paid the least? Yes they have downtime but so do police common sitting in a car with a radar gun aint that hard sure the paperwork is a pain in the ass but common they dont deserve more then a fireman

    • haga

      teachers don’t get payed that much we barely get anything why do you think we go on strike. and teachers should be getting payed the most since the make the future of the children, if there were no teachers there would be no doctors, no police officers, no engineers, if there were no teachers no one would be educated. and teachers also have a stressful life never knowing when they might be laid off work and they spend their own time preparing lessons and activities for their classes and don’t forget about making report cards and dealing with 30 kids for more than 6 hours a day.

      • disqus_CmYfsmWGN9

        What a joke! Teachers should get payed the least! The money isn’t why you should be into this field of work. Going on strike doesn’t mean you don’t get payed enough, it means you’re ungrateful about your income when there are those who are out of College struggling to make ends meet while they’re working a thing called Overtime, over 8 hrs a day, (yeah, it’s illegal but in the real world people do it anyway to keep their job and earn more money) You have a plethora of bonuses. Let me list them; 1.SUMMERS AND ALL HOLIDAYS OFF!. 2.WEEKENDS OFF! 3. Home in time to spend with family everyday by 4-5pm LATEST. 4. Climatised environment! 5. No manual labour. 6.Almost forgot this one because it’s so rare in the real world-BENEFITS
        So excuse me if I’m indifferent to your suffering. You should appreciate your jobs, quit striking and taking extra curricular activities away from the kids because it would take away more funding, and put all that energy you put into bitching and crying for more money, and put it to use towards bettering the environment for children. Maybe if teachers worked hard and were tired at the end of their shifts, they wouldn’t have the energy to bitch and moan, and instead, appreciate how amazing you have it!
        Reading what you wrote was SO INFURIATING!

        • Ihor Nedoshytko

          That’s “paid” Einstein!! I don’t know if you know but most people get week-ends and holidays off. What cntury are you from??

          • Ihor Nedoshytko

            That’s “century”……

          • Ihor Nedoshytko

            You’re right, “century”. Typo!!…but what would you know about sentence structure?? Another, “I know better even though I’m not a teacher” type. Again, get in there, get your degree, and show us how it’s done Maestro. A veritable “provocateur”! My spelling’s fine.

          • Samantha

            I think everyone should get more time off, alike to France

        • Ihor Nedoshytko

          Another “internet Troll” spreading disinformation!! What kind of manual labour should teachers do?? Since when was overtime illegal? How do you know when any teacher gets home?? Do you follow them home??? Are you a stalker?? I hope that you don’t live in my area of the country? Another provocateur???

          • Bigjoe

            Really, just stop. You have no idea what the people in the private sector go through. We are realists and it is you that lives in a greedy fanatasy land.

        • Miss. Teacher

          Haha. You plan a week with a class, remember to differentiate your instruction for those students who need it, while dealing with behavioural issues and all of the family issues that are causing it. Then tell me you don’t want to sit on your couch and do nothing! Oh nothing sounds great, but wait you have to call the parent of the child who tried to hit another child in class or swore at you while you were teaching. Oh and wait you still have to mark those assignments and plan a meaningful lesson for each subject of the day. Yes that is 6 hours of meaningful learning experience for your 27 students that they can relate to and find interesting. You try it. Then I’ll give you the right to complain about what teachers get paid!

      • paola

        i hate teachers they get paid way too much for doing a joke job. I could teach elementary school without any education.

        • Miss. Teacher

          Hahaha. Tell me, what do you do what a student in your class is struggling with integers and they are feeling overwhelmed with anxiety. Or I’m sorry do you know what integers are or what subject I’m talking about? This is elementary curriculum. Or what do you do when a student is constantly being bullied and has no support at home so can’t seem to focus on anything at school? What do you do when a student gets so angry over nothing that he throws a chair across the room. Some days I DON’T earn enough for what I make. Last question, answer me this. A square is a parallelogram but a parallelogram is not a square why? (Grade 4 math question).

          • M Maldives

            Answer you this?! Get over yourself.

      • WhyNot

        *paid (for starters) way to go, Teach…. remind me again WHY teachers should make the amount they do, ESPECIALLY with spelling and grammar as poor as yours???

      • pat

        That is entirely incorrect. A lot of teachers have no effect on any children/teen period. Most of my friends (we are all engineers) have taught ourselves.

        Most of my teachers in highschool were plainly stupid and ignorant and played favourites; my highschool time was miserable. It was not until this really silly teacher Mr. Mete in Welland Ontario realized I was a genius that he stopped his ridicule towards me. I wrote scribbled all over the 2nd page of my exam and he told me to finish it and I said, “i dont need to”. I passed with a 90% in his class.

        Half of high school teachers are not anymore intelligent than the students they are teaching to, especially in today’s age. School is also umpteen centuries old and the medium works against students at best.

        I have never in my entire life needed to dish out what I have learned in a subject within 3-4 hours on my job ever, period. Not only that, I went through UWO for biochemical engineering and I am now a chemical engineer at CNRL 85KM north of fort macmurray.

        I had to re-learn everything on the job because literally in school I was learning fundamentals and 300 year old theories that have some conventional wisdom attached to the curriculum. All my software engineering friends said University helped them achieve nothing at all. The materials are more difficult than the work itself as well.

        In essence it is all a money trap and those who fail very well could maybe perform an engineering job with their eyes closed. In essence it steals money from those who do not have it and prepares students for nothing. I could design a better teaching curriculum within 1 year for all chemical engineers. But then oh my gosh why would the government be trying to promote free thinking and try to expand ones knowledge rather than control its progression.

        I feel bad for some of you here.. You really do not see reality for what it really is. I also feel even worse for teachers who actually think they are making a difference in anyones life. I never thought of learning as what my teacher is telling me is truth I learned through my own senses and interpreted concepts in my own words all my life. I also learned at a very young age whenever I processed large quantities of info – when I slept I somehow remembered all of this info through my subconcious memory. Highschool does not even teach students this fundamental principle of learning… To be honest I never would have become an engineer without my own self taught lessons.

      • hansmoleman

        Are you a teacher? Learn to fuck*ng spell you idiot.

    • Skeptic

      Because it takes no brains to be a cop, a firefighter, or a paramedic, but it takes education and brains to be a good teacher?

      • john

        Yeah who needs brains when it comes to responding to life threatening cardiac arrest call… I can’t wait until your father has his heart attack and you call for the closest teacher with brains to come and save his life…

        • frank

          i am not surprised that the emergency sections make this list especially paramedics they are the one of most misunderstood professions ever they are not just some fancy taxi service with lights they can perform medical procedures that a lot of higher paying medical professions can not. and not to bash on firefighters they do amazing work aswell but they will always get the attention over the paramedics how often do you hear about paramedics? little to none right? and thats because they have patient confidentiality and they cannot talk about anything relating to any accident or medical emergencies so the media has no choice to focus on either fire or police.

      • anonymous comment

        Hey skeptic some teacher you are commenting on others abilities saying they have no brains. You of all people should know better teaching kids with different talents and abilities. I’m a teen and obviously not anyone of those jobs. But it does require brains… All three jobs especially a paramedic requires medical knowledge. They also require physical demanding work unlike you sitting behind a desk teaching children simple math, English and so on. Again all these jobs require communication skills. These are the most stressful jobs, seeing people hurt or possibly dead, not being able to save them, and putting their life at risk. You think you deal with paper work you have all the answers and you just need to check the children’s to see if they are right or not or got good enough answers. These jobs require accident reports, why they had to use their weapon why you couldn’t save a victim of what happened to them. I’ve bet you’ve never seen someone die or suffer at all, if you have probably once or it was peaceful with a family member, but everyone has had that unless they sadly dont have a family or loved one. Cops, firefighters, and paramedic have probably experienced seeing someone die or suffer a lot. For cops some have to cause the pain or death of others to save or help other people. Also you think you have it hard with paper work when you already have the answers so all you have to do is say if they are right or wrong of have a good enough answer. But for these jobs is explaining why you had to do the things you did and confront your boss on your decisions and how you can improve. And they got an education similar to you, but they use it to help people and expand their knowledge by constantly studying when all you do is repeat what you learned and ask kids questions. Also you had to learn what everyone learned, basic knowledge when they had to learn medical studies, fire science, chemical science, things on structure, technical and mechanical, the law, physical and mental studies, communicating skills and many many other things. Then you have the nerve to say they don’t have brains, they learned things you learned and you now nothing about and lots of things you have never heard of so I wouldn’t go calling them brainless you bitch how about next time you are in trouble, you have a medical problem or your in a fire or even a hostage situation you deal with it yourself… thats right you won’t know how so why don’t you show some respect because your not putting your life on the line and over it to help others they are, they risk their lives for your safety and the safety of others not you its called respect maybe you shouldn’t do the teaching you should be taught some respect. AND NO ONE COMMENT ON MY GRAMMER OR SPELLING I KNOW ITS NOT MY TALENT AND FRANKLY I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF YOU INSULT IT!

      • Bigjoe

        No brains? So when you are injured in a car wreck I hope they leave you there. You are a piece of crap.

    • Ihor Nedoshytko

      Have you done your homework or are you just mouthing-off and repeating what you’ve heard?? Does a teacher really make more than a fireman or a policeman? That’s not the case where i come from in Canada. In the USA, teachers are among the lowest paid professionals in the country? Possibly there are internet trolls out there spreading disinformation? So…go do your homework…..!!!

      • Bigjoe

        The only troll is you.

    • Filmie

      What is wrong with a police officer making $100,000 when there are security guards in the film industry making $100,000 a year also in Vancouver, BC? If you ask me, every single Canadian police officer should make this much at a minimum just for working full time right out as a rookie. And in Vancouver, especially, $100,000 is nothing.

  • Jeshwin

    why the hell are people so surprised with teachers, and saying that they don’t deserve this? ok maybe some teachers try and milk the system but at the end of the day they are integral to a smooth working society! teachers unlock the dreams of kids and help them become what they need to be… working with kids/teenagers is another level up because of all the extra bull shit they need to deal with; without teachers, societies would crumble, period.

    • Arch_of_Life

      This is not a critical thinking argument. Teachers do, but Canadian teachers don’t, this is not a pay versus skill related argument. 1 Canada’s teachers are highest paid in the world. 2. Education and testing are going down. 3. The system itself is held back growingly targeted complacent unqualified staff. 3. There is no accountability for teachers, firing unless an extreme circumstance 4. They are paid as much as doctors, lawyers, engineers, architects, who have professions lawsuits, risk of losing their licence, late nights, constant risk of being fired for the next generation, and constant skill development to keep there job. They are considered overpaid compared to other government jobs. At this pay, you could make the public school system private, and get better results out of it.

      The reason they get their increases, is because they threat striking. In Canada people sending their kids to school can NOT even afford daycare, or to miss a day of work during a strike. A PRIVILEGE all teachers have. To argue keeping this pay is a complete disregard for the children and society you claim to care for, or have knowledge of. Every intelligent teacher I had, well informed in societal, economic, issues and could do math appreciated their pay and work.

      • Deviant

        Honestly though, government workers, including teachers are compensated way too much. Working in the private sector for 10 years its a tough world where your compensation directly reflects your performance. While there are great teachers, police, fireman, passport workers, they do not get rewarded or compensated for performance, and there are many of them who get paid a ridiculous amount of tax payers dollars without delivering service.

  • Herb123

    Well Im a teacher and I dont make 100k, I make 60k and many make less. In fact I dont know a teacher who does make 100k. The ones who do, are principals or they are higher up. At least in elementary, highschool teachers make slightly more (with more prep time and less responsibilities but thats another argument). There are 4 pay brackets and they are all dependent on how much school you have taken. I am in the highest pay bracket because I graduated with a 4 years honour degree plus Canadian teachers college…which actually only put me in pay bracket 3. I had to get another 5 university credits to move up (or a Canadian masters). Ive gotten 13, even though I only needed 5 (I can technically graduate with a 3rd degree). Many teachers are like me and continue to take courses to better themselves. My bracket (which is the highest) is maxed out at 92k (starts around 52k), you have to work 11 years to get to the top of any pay bracket and which bracket you are in is dependent on school, and the next one down is 86ish (starts around 50k), for a 3 year degree and teachers college it starts around 45 and maxs at 75. All of which are awesome but not 100k.

    The bottom line is I am super happy with what I make and I had to work hard to get it, just like many others in other fields who work hard and had to go through schooling. Ive never heard a teacher complain about their wage or think they should make more. Id do it for less, do I want to take a wage cut? No but who would? Its a great job with great benefits, great time off and a great wage and I am thankful that I actually got a job because man its tough! However, just because I make good money and have great benefits (which I pay 250 per month for) and time off does not mean that I work 6 hours a day or am ungrateful or anything else. I work hard, I plan hard, I do extra curriculars, I mark and plan after school, I cut letters and signs and write notes out at home, I cry worrying about children, phone parents and get yelled at for not doing enough. I give everything into my job, just like many other teachers. Are there teachers who dont do the same and do the bare minimum? Yes but they are in every job. Most teachers are amazing and try their hardest, better themselves, take courses and love their job. I just wish people didnt hate us as much. Were trying hard, most arent complaining, and yes our job is hard, not everyone could make in teaching. Maybe we dont save lives traditionally speaking but Id like to hope Ive made a difference in a few.

    • pat

      Yet you can barely use the english language in the proper context. This is what you get when you study the “arts” vs. engineering. people like this guy/girl who think a masters of arts demonstrates anything other than how unintelligent you are since any engineering student conisders a PhD of said arts field to be less than their B.Eng. Do you get an Iron ring and you capable of signing off on designs making yourself liable? No because the two fields are far apart and will never be related. While I feel bad for bashing you a little I will apologize and congratulate you for your hardwork.

      However this is where people differentiate; the arts to me is mindless and boring memorization of semi plausible theories at best. It is essentially the easiest way to make a living IMO. However most would tell me “do not ridicule anyone’s intelligence”. I must agree as well it is mean but do you know how many friends of mine are in mechanical engineering positions out west who are just breaking 80K?

      Considering gap in difficulty of materials it is absolutely pathetic. I am just making over 6 figures wih my benefits included and I am a process engineer in a remote camp. Considering the lifestyle sacrafices I make and the quality of my degree comapred to your “arts” degree. Teachers wages make absolutely no sense; grade school and highschool especially. How can you possible be making close to what I am? High school teachers deserve a capped salary of 71K at best at the highest level.

    • Bigjoe

      Teachers max out at 94 k Ten years on the job. Everyone knows that. Pretty good for being on the job for such a short period of time. Plus all the great benefits. So really it comes out to being quite a bit more then 100 k.

  • anonymous comment

    To:skeptic and other teachers with the same feelings
    Some teacher you are commenting on others abilities saying they have no brains. You of all people should know better teaching kids with different talents and abilities. I’m a teen and obviously not anyone of those jobs. But it does require brains… All three jobs especially a paramedic requires medical knowledge. They also require physical demanding work unlike you sitting behind a desk teaching children simple math, English and so on. Again all these jobs require communication skills. These are the most stressful jobs, seeing people hurt or possibly dead, not being able to save them, and putting their life at risk. You think you deal with paper work you have all the answers and you just need to check the children’s to see if they are right or not or got good enough answers. These jobs require accident reports, why they had to use their weapon why you couldn’t save a victim of what happened to them. I’ve bet you’ve never seen someone die or suffer at all, if you have probably once or it was peaceful with a family member, but everyone has had that unless they sadly dont have a family or loved one. Cops, firefighters, and paramedic have probably experienced seeing someone die or suffer a lot. For cops some have to cause the pain or death of others to save or help other people. Also you think you have it hard with paper work when you already have the answers so all you have to do is say if they are right or wrong of have a good enough answer. But for these jobs is explaining why you had to do the things you did and confront your boss on your decisions and how you can improve. And they got an education similar to you, but they use it to help people and expand their knowledge by constantly studying when all you do is repeat what you learned and ask kids questions. Also you had to learn what everyone learned, basic knowledge when they had to learn medical studies, fire science, chemical science, things on structure, technical and mechanical, the law, physical and mental studies, communicating skills and many many other things. Then you have the nerve to say they don’t have brains, they learned things you learned and you now nothing about and lots of things you have never heard of so I wouldn’t go calling them brainless you bitch how about next time you are in trouble, you have a medical problem or your in a fire or even a hostage situation you deal with it yourself… thats right you won’t know how so why don’t you show some respect because your not putting your life on the line and over it to help others they are, they risk their lives for your safety and the safety of others not you. Police officers, Firefighters, Paramedics and nurses should all be paid much more than teachers. Its called respect maybe you shouldn’t do the teaching you should be taught some respect. AND NO ONE COMMENT ON MY GRAMMER OR SPELLING I KNOW ITS NOT MY TALENT AND FRANKLY I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF YOU INSULT IT!

    • Samantha

      If anyone is envious, they should just do the education and become whatever career they are envious of rather than bashing it.

      • jesset55

        I think you’re right Samantha. However, if we all did this, we’d all be working for the government.

        The problem is, nobody really cares about how tax dollars are spent because it’s not really any ONE person’s money. In other words, there’s not enough incentive for anyone to really fight for how our taxes are spent. So, over time, public sector jobs begin to collect all the perks, raises and benefits.

        On the other hand, in the private sector, if one wants health benefits, or raises, or two paid months off for vacation; the money for these things comes directly out of an employer’s wallet. It’s much more difficult for an individual employer to justify the costs of some of these perks.

        As tax-payers, it’s our responsibility to keep our government in check with how they spend our money. “Bashing” what our government does with our money is actual just speaking up about how we feel about our government’s decisions. If anything, our Country needs more “bashing” and a stronger ability to make the change we want to see actually happen. This is what a true democracy would look like.

        • Samantha

          You seem to have some good and strong opinions–just a question—what do you think a great job is, Jesset55? One that is somewhat physical, pays decently, and has a good employment forcast for the future….

          • jesset55

            Personally, my passion is in creating new products – I’m currently a project manager working at a company that makes mobile apps. It’s a difficult career, but I enjoy it.

            If I were to suggest a career to a young person however, I would recommend becoming a doctor. Besides that, I would probably suggest any of the five careers listed above (if they lived in Ontario).

            So, do I think that people should go after these great public sector jobs? Absolutely! People should always strive to get the best job they can – and I would never condemn a person for having one of these great public sector jobs. Does that justify overpaying teachers? Absolutely not.

  • HtChamsung

    I just got hired as a teacher last year, and I’m telling you, it’s a lot of work… and I’m making about 54/yr. I used to work as a lender at a bank and I was good at my job. I sold sold sold and made good money. Although I worked more in that career, the difficulty of work was not the same. Teaching is much more difficult, your doing three 50 minute presentation’s 5 days a week in front of sometimes a rowdy crowd. When ever someone says “I was a student so I know what it’s like to be a teacher”, I just laugh. Student life is easy, you worry about yourself and that’s it. And how about the pressure of being a good example for 90 different students. You can’t be yourself as a teacher, you have to act like the typical “good person” all day, and it’s stressful. You essentially lose your freedom to be who you want to be.

  • HtChamsung

    How come no one complains of dentist making tons of money? They charge obscene amounts of money for oral health care. I guess they believe their right to owning expensive vehicles and big houses is more important then some people’s oral health…

  • roberto741

    People ragging on teachers about pay…please note that the students put in a six hour day they are 8 to 5 and don’t get paid for the time we use for prep and marking etc. We don’t get holiday pay, we don’t get paid for stat holidays and we don’t get paid overtime. No double time for coaching your kid or chaperoning that dance. We do not get paid during all those time off “holidays” people are so critical of .

    Your real bitch should be with govt workers.If you work for most levels of government you can have up to 8 weeks paid holidays, a rdiculous numbers of sick days( often used as holidays) . With every second Friday off ( another 26 working days, that’s another 5 weeks paid holidays) plus another 2 or 3 floaters. If your edo (“earned day off”???!!!) falls on a stat or floater day you get an additional day in lieu of. Oh yea, these are all paid holidays. This exceeds all those “holidays” a teacher gets and they are all paid days off!

    I have two children who now teach. They go in early, stay well after classes are gone, regularly go in on weekends and spend many days during their “holidays” preparing for the upcoming weeks. Let’s see your similarly paid govt worker do that.

    • jesset55

      Again, it’s funny when public service workers compare themselves to other public service workers. The main argument circulating here is that all public service workers (not just teachers) are paid too much. This is a huge reason why our taxes in Canada are so high and our government is in so much debt. All of the “surprising” six-figure jobs mentioned in this article are public service jobs. When you work for the government, it’s commonly known that you’ll get better pay, better benefits, and more vacation time than the average person working just as hard or harder in the private sector. The frustrating part is that the private sector (the people who pay your salary) has no say in how much you should get paid and everyday government unions strong arm the people into paying them more and more for having to do less and less.

    • Bigjoe

      Wow! You work 6 months of the year for a full years salary! Unbelievable.

  • Gerry Coppola

    Teachers want to teach less and get paid more. By the time you know it there salaries will be at par with hockey players.

  • brock

    Difference is paramedics are 8-10x busier than firefighters and earn the money they make. They have up to four years of schooling compared to only requiring a high school diploma to apply for the fire department. Recent article in the news out of Sudbury Ontario shows paramedics responded to 40,000 calls compared to the fire departments 5,000 calls even though the FD received $24 million of the $35 million dollar budget leaving $11 million for police and paramedics. Terrible!

  • charlesccc

    If you want to attract talent, you have to pay for it. Paying teachers less will not benefit students in the end. The education system also needs to find a way to give extra compensation to those who are innovative and effective!

  • Janet Prampero

    Teachers are so overpaid in this province and feel so entitled and people believe they actually work I live next door to two teachers they are the last car out of the driveways and the first cars home and my taxes are absolutely out of control having to pay for them this is ridiculous

  • Erik H Ahlblad

    Why are the average salaries for the lawyer the same as the average teacher? A lawyer needs more advanced education and I can say for sure, it is much more intense that that of a teacher. Not pushing teachers down, I know they work hard and their lives can be in danger at times, but I think lawyers work many more hours and have far shorter vacations. They have to be right on the back and have to carefully phrase questions that successfully cross examine witnesses. That takes grey matter.

  • Ethan Heida

    Some times I hate are system the people getting the best pay i think are teachers they work 6 hour days and get 180 vacation days per year. now tell wich job is more valubal to the country paremedics firefighters and police (hint hint the ones who save lives)
    or teachers and princepals (hint hint the ones who sit at their desk all day giving a fiew already made lessons to some noncaring students then returning to their familys and do half a hour a marking with their handy answer sheet!) (just a hint)

  • Ethan Heida

    o ya what sucks is that the average salury for teacher (or why don’t we just call em usless complainers) is 83,500 but for fighfighters and paremedics its 65,000 so aparently what they do is more inportant then what they do MAN Ontario is screwed up
    but wait what do teachers do o ya! NOTHING

  • Filmie

    Some security guards in the film industry also make $100k a year.

  • Taylor D

    Summer is paid time when most teachers plan the curriculum for the next year and attend meetings. You will rarely find a teacher that would describe their summer as relaxing.

    Some teaching unions (Manitoba’s for example) gave up the right to strike in exchange for pensions. Some say this was a good call, others are less certain.

    Teachers in many school districts are expected to put in volunteer time. Some offer a day off for 50 hours of volunteering with the school (RETSD gives 2 free days for 100hrs), but many just have it set as mandatory.

    A teacher will not get overtime pay, unlike fantasy land private sector jobs where you get paid extra when you dont finish things in a the hours you’re paid to work. Teachers are paid for the time they are teaching and expected to work with students, plan lessons, create worksheets, and work on grading and reports on their own time.

    Teachers are also not in charge of the curriculum they teach, many curriculum officers make more money, work less, and have no experience actually teaching classes. Math teachers have the hardest time because they are often told how to teach math based on nonsense and voodo.

    On the flip side, a Master degree in education or the field the teacher is educated in makes a lot of sense. Right now to become a teacher you need a bachelors in arts or science with a major and a minor in teachable subject areas (some areas, like psychology, law, and politics are only teachable minors) and a two year b. ed. In Finland, where there is a near 100% literacy rate, teachers have masters degrees.

    The nordic countries also treat teachers like doctors or lawyers, and subsidize university. The public sector there is huge and the class sizes are small. The students are educated.

  • Ihor Nedoshytko

    Hey, uninformed!! Six hours a day…right. Just go into a school someday and shadow a teacher sometime. You’ll probably not be able to get up early enough and not have enough energy to stay the 3-4 hours after school to assess the students’ work!

  • Miss. Teacher

    I realize I am posting this rather late into the discussion, but your post among all of these others angers me. Being a new teacher, I can tell you we do NOT work 6 hours a day. We may be with our students for 6 hours each day but we go home plan for the next day, making sure it is a high quality learning experience for each subject we teach (which in my case is every subject). Also do you enjoy your days off? Me too, while I’m STILL planning and marking.

    Not only do I want to provide my students with a quality education but I must provide them with a caring, and trusting relationship while trying to keep this type of atmosphere in my classroom of 27 students. Which I might add come from foster care and single parent homes, and come to school hungry. Yes, this is Canada in a seemingly middle class area.

    To the person who said what dangers to teachers face. Well let’s see, just this week I had a student sprinting after another with an amount of rage I rarely see. So it attempt to keep my other student safe I made myself a barrier around her while I was getting punched in the stomach! This is a good time to add I’m 110lb female. I also had another student throw blocks at my head. There are times when schools are on lockdown because of a danger/ immediate threat of violence within the school. So yes, our job seems not to be dangerous unless there is a threat and I must protect the 27 students I have in my class. As it is my job to keep them safe at all costs.

    So do we get paid to much, do we struck because we are greedy? NO, but hey if you don’t believe me go volunteer in a classroom for a few days me tell me if you could do it?

  • therealdeal

    Jesse55, I find it shocking how little you know about life in general, your level of ignorance is astounding. Both my parents are teachers, two of my sisters and one brother, they work their ass off roughly 12 hours a day; a few hours of prep time everyday, 6-8 hours of teaching and another 1-2 hours after school cleaning, marking and preping lessons for the next day. They deal with over filled classrooms, and are forced to prepare individual lessons for each child at each level of their learning, essentially catering to each child’s rate of learning. They get no over time, and constantly get new areas of responsibility each year to appease the new generation parents who have no issue putting their kids in front of the tv for 4 hours every night and leave their home work to the kids to get done. Coupled with the fact they do four years of university and another two years of teachers college I would say they are underpaid. If your that concerned about lay offs and no benefits, be a man and join the army, bitching online about things you have the power to change is what terrorists do!

  • Sarah

    You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Does anybody else on that list have a University degree of 5 years(MINIMUM)? To become a nurse, paramedic or a cop you have to go to school for 2 years IF THAT. Some cops don’t have any education at all, just training (and a big ego). The reason teachers receive a good salary is because they are highly educated individuals!!! Not to mention that new teachers only start off at a salary of $40,000 a year. It takes 10+ years of experience PLUS on going education and workshops to get to a 6 figure salary. Teachers are VERY well deserving of the income they receive. They are lucky to graduate from University with debt under $40,000 from tuition and textbook fees. I often hear ignorant people like yourself classifying teachers as over paid babysitters. Ridiculous. Those people have no idea the amount of planning that is involved in preparing lesson and unit plans. Teachers are responsible for the future generation, they are the ones RAISING your children. Children spend more time with their teachers in a day then they do with their parents. So the next time you want to make stabs at a teacher, ask yourself what you’re doing thats making a difference in the world?

  • jesset55

    Lol. Good point. Can we all just agree that in order to make that much money teachers should be required to have a masters degree in education and that their pay should be directly tied to their performance as teachers. Maybe then they would have some incentive to actually help students learn things.

  • jesset55

    That’s quite the assumption. As a project manager in the private sector, I’m very accustomed to waking up early and staying at work late.

    Nobody is saying that being a teacher isn’t difficult. Most jobs are difficult in one sense or another. The argument is that, compared to other jobs, they are paid too much.

    I have several teachers in my family including my sister who makes 109k/year. I actually shadowed my sister in high school for a careers class. I also, like most people, spent many years in school; so I feel like I have a good sense of the work involved with being a teacher.

    I appreciate good teachers, and I think it’s great that people like my sister are making good money. However, for the amount of hours they work, and the amount of education it takes to be a teacher, I still believe that they get paid far too much – and the tax payers suffer as a result.

    The average income is about one third of what teachers make. People who are just as educated, who work just as hard, and work more hours than teachers, making a fraction of what teachers make.

    Again, I wouldn’t mind paying 100k per teacher if we were getting highly educated kids as a result – but this simply isn’t the case. In order to make that much money, teachers should be required to have a masters degree in education and their pay should be directly tied to their performance.

  • whatever you believe

    i have not yet seen a teacher that stayed extra 3-4 hours after school. i know it because i had extracurricular activity in auditorium every day. Office lady always stayed til 5pm though LOL

  • Ihor Nedoshytko

    Then possibly, you should retrain and show us all how it’s done?? In regard to pay, I don’t know any teacher that makes 100K. Are you pulling numbers out of a hat?? However when it comes to highly educated children, their success is cooperative effort and a great number of parents think that thier childs learning is the teachers responsibility only. Many parents are lazy, and won’t or don’t want to take the time to work with their child at home for retention purposes, or make certain taht homework/practice was accomplished and take away the Game Boy . Who’d assess teacher performance, you? I take it that if you were a teacher you could guarentee 100% success?I think that you are are just a complainer and instigator not satisfied and fullfilled in his/her own line of work and are venting because you can; a winer.There is a pipe dream out there among the public that perpetuates the idea of having 30-35 students in a class with one teacher and yet expects fireworks success. Not all students have the same abilities or even aspirations. Governemnt funding is being cut left and right….Again I don’t know what teachers are commanding 100k salaries, but I do know sveral government employees commanding that much sitting behind a desk flipping papers; and just who are those unfairly paid people who possess as much education as teachers, but are paid much, much less? Get in that classroom and show us overpaid teachers how it’s done and zip your lip.

  • jesset55

    This pretty much sums up how the rest of us feel.

  • Bigjoe

    So funny. Many spelling mistakes and poor grammar. It’s not just teachers that make too much. It’s most of them.

  • paola

    teaching is a joke

  • Alex

    Summer a time to plan for next year’s curriculum?! Give me a break!? For
    entry level teachers perhaps. Once you get in the groove of things,
    many teachers use the same curriculum year after year with little
    “tweeks”

  • whatever you believe

    teachers have nice summer vacation. The curriculum never changes, students using seniors’ old tests to get 100%.
    Only hard working teachers that make over 100k are the ones that does summer school. otherwise they have heavenly life.

  • hansmoleman

    Teachers don’t write the curriculum or the textbook. McGraw-Hill writes the textbook.

    ” unlike fantasy land private sector jobs where you get paid extra when you dont finish things in a the hours you’re paid to work.”

    shut your fucking mouth idiot. You wouldn’t last a day in a real job.

  • Taylor D

    Returning to this as someone who is (thankfully) no longer in high school and actually wound up getting into an Education degree program I have a lot of revisions to my understanding of the field.

    Summer is when new teachers need to do a lot of planning, and this planning and revising period takes up a good deal of summer fun time for most newbies, usually until they reach their fifth year and have a steady place in the division. By the time a teacher is tenured, the only reason summer is being eaten by planning is because of the odd change to some specific learning outcomes or because they were assigned a subject that they’ve never taught (the catch being that most new teachers will get into the job by taking a class in a subject they never got a teachable in, so the change in class may be that a newbie actually gets to teach what they went to school for).

    Unions are still important and the right to strike is a (controversial) issue.

    Teachers are expected to put in volunteer hours during the “teaching seasons.” The usual requirement is 1-2 weeks worth (40-80 hours). This is why teachers run clubs and manage high school sports teams. I think that some teachers take this task on with passion and create spectacular learning experiences and professional opportunities for their students, while others try to find the easiest way to burn a lunch hour every week until they hit their division’s minimum standard. Most divisions award 1-2 free days for the two weeks used. #whatisaltruism

    Teaching jobs in Manitoba have wages that start at ~$50K annually and increase for up to nine years. Teachers with more education (a post-bac or a Masters) go up a pay tier for each graduation of their degree. A teacher with a M.Ed after working for nine years in the highest paying school division in Manitoba will earn an annual gross salary of ~$95K.

    The curriculum is set out by the provincial government, which depending on the politics of the area can be a good thing or a bad thing, but it usually means that public pressure influences what teachers need to teach. Life is still rough for math teachers who get garbled nonsense policy statements and “new math” pamphlets.

    Do I think teachers need a 6 figure salary? It depends but I’m leaning no. I mean, Teaching is a job that requires a minimum of two degrees and is inarguably foundational to the success of a developed country. Teaching is also a hard job that has a high burnout rate, in a competitive five year Integrated Education programs, the expectation is that only a quarter to a third of all the students that get in will make it through their final year, and from there a third of them will quit teaching within 6 years.

    At the same time, it’s a profession that starts its employees off on a comfortable wage. $50K is low for someone with 5+ years of post-secondary, but there are a lot of benefits and guaranteed annual pay increases. ($50K is also enough money to support a family, even after taxes so complaining about that feels so #entitled it warrants another hashtag).

    All in all, if more money is going to be pumped into schools it should be from the feds to their on-reserve schools. The average province has hundreds of policy documents and provides funding for pilot projects and professional development in their schools – The schools held under the Indian Act have like 10 policy documents, pay teachers noticeably less – with almost no benefits, and receive little to no extra funding when curriculum changes.

    TL;DR – I was a literal child you fucks leave me alone/I have seen the error of my ways

  • Ethan Heida

    Thats complete BS you will never find a teacher not finding there summer relaxing if yo go to a place like murtle beach all you will find there is teachers or profesors there jobs are a joke

    heres my point: Fire fighters police and paremetics all avergly make about 50-70 thousand a year when risking there lives every day and working 24 hour shifts YET teachers sit at their desk marking all day and drinking coffe geting 2 months of for summer and a christmas break plus spring break and many other short holidays through the year. and then they avergaly make 100,000 a year and if they get a job upgrade say to princaple they get 120,000. and if you are saying they dont relax during vacations thats all they do.

    ok some of you are saying that teachers are the ones that teach all the fire fighters paramedics and ploice you are wrong! the ones who teach them ARE fighfighters paramedics and police! teachers just throw math a sciance dow students throates the real teachers are the people i just said.

    all these reasons are why i think figherfighter, paremedics and police (mabye nurses) should get a major rase! and when i was saying these people risk their lives every day yes i know paremedics dont but they are the ones who say lives EVERY day!! thank you for reading

  • Samantha

    Principals make the six figures. Teachers cap around 90k.

  • Pissed off public servant

    WOW. I’m a Business Analyst with the Feds & tryng to work my way up to project management. If you are a PM and this cartoon sums up how you feel, ignorance and misinformation seems to be the mandate for the private sector.

  • Miss. Teacher

    Teachers don’t make 6 figures. Unless you are teaching at the university level. So you should probably base your facts on more than just one small article you have read!

  • jesset55

    Not true. I promise, my sister is a teacher and makes the sunshine list every year. That being said, she is head of the languages department, so that might have something to do with it. Either way, take a look at how many teachers are on the sunshine list – they can’t all be principals or heads of departments.

  • jesset55

    Just check out the sunshine list. There are plenty of teachers making over $100k —> http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/publications/salarydisclosure/pssd/orgs.php?organization=schoolboards&year=2013

  • jesset55

    Which part do you believe to be ignorant or misinformed exactly?

  • therealdeal

    I agree, jesse55 is a fool and ignorant!

  • jesset55

    I’m not sure most of these arguments apply to your situation. Being a new teacher, you’re probably only making around 60k/year. The main argument is that teachers who are making six figures (plus amazing benefits, job security, and vacation time) are being paid too much. Again, I wouldn’t mind paying teachers that much if they had a masters degrees in education and were doing a good job at educating our kids. In fact, this would be a great achievement for our country. Unfortunately, most teachers have some unrelated degree with one year of teacher’s college and simply went into teaching because of all the aforementioned perks. As we say in the software world, garbage in, garbage out. You get an F- for your ability to construct a solid argument 😛

  • Taylor

    you chose to be a teacher! Teachers nowadays are only in it for the cash, and not the teaching. teachers strike because they aren’t getting paid enough? tons of people make less than you guys and are getting by just fine without 2 months holiday, march break, Christmas vacation, PA days and weekends off and no pension and horrible benefits. i know tons of teachers who take the whole 2 months off of summer and same with the rest of the breaks! if you want to teach then teach, don’t teach for the money. why do you think there’s no jobs in teaching? Im pretty sure i know why…you guys truly make me sick to my stomach.

    Go look up teachers in Public sector disclosure and you`ll see how much teachers truly make.

  • Miss. Teacher

    I wish I wasing making 60k a year bit unfortunately I’m not even close to this. Teachers, I believe, making that much would have to have a specialty such as their masters and be very close to retirement. I teach elementary and my salary will never reach 6 digits. At a salary that high I am guessing they may even have a doctorate.

  • Miss. Teacher

    You are right, but I am no where close to 60k a year. So case in point I guess, If I were making 100k a year I would not be upset. But I do not think this is to much pay for teachers. These other jobs, your job would not exist with all of the teachers who helped you along the way. Now again that being said I believe all professions should pay more. We go into such large debt to educate ourself, struggle to find jobs and then have to work off our debt. As an elementary teacher I will never make 100k a year, but I love it. This salary I believe is directed at professors who have their masters and most their doctorate.

  • jesset55

    You would think so, but that’s not the case. Plenty of high school teachers in Ontario with only teachers college and some online training are making six figures. Check out last year’s sunshine list to see for yourself.

  • M Maldives

    Miss. Teacher – I’m so happy to hear you say you love teaching. I wish more teachers felt that way. I agree that teachers do make an absurd salary for the quality of education our children are receiving. An masters in education should be mandatory. We need smart, open minded, caring professionals in teaching roles. Unfortunately the system is flooded with coddled, dimwits that are overly secure in their unionized jobs. Teaching should be payed based on performance, like most jobs. If a public sector accountant was unable to add they would very likely have no business. You Miss Teacher can not differentiate between too, two and to… yet you are sitting pretty with guaranteed pay raises, summers off, a pension plan, abundance of sick days, it makes me sick. There was a comment made earlier about “garbage in, garbage out”, what a realistic way of thinking about our school system. How would any teacher be motivated to put out their best when there is little to no incentive/consequence for lousy performance. “Professions” shouldn’t be paid more, minimum wage employees should be paid more. Your statement about “If I were making 100k.. I wouldn’t be so upset” makes my head hurt. Prove you’re worth it. To any teachers reading this that are compassionate, intelligent, hard working individuals THANK YOU for truly being one in a million.

  • Ethan Heida

    No you are wrong the ones that teach firefighters, paramedics and police ALL the VALUABLE jobs are like i said in my other comment are FIREFIGHTERS, PARAMEDICS AND POLICE!
    and the ones that teach teachers are OVER PAID PROFESSORS THAT SIT AT THEIR DESKS ALL DAY DRINKING COFFEE AND MARKING TESTS USING THEIR CONVENIENT ANSWER SHEET!

    so you are wrong teachers jobs are way over paid they should get annual max sallieries of 70,000!

  • jesset55

    Google last year’s sunshine list. You will find many high school teachers on there.